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15 voters discuss Trump, Harris, and the Swing States in opinion.

In our latest Times Opinion focus group, we gathered 15 voters who have some particular insight: They all voted for Mr. Biden in 2020, and most of them have somewhat favorable views of Ms. Harris, yet they are soft in their support of her or have yet to fully commit. The participants felt torn about whether America’s best days were ahead or in the past and had seen some modest improvements in the economy — especially the job and housing markets — but felt worried personally about inflation and the future. None of them wanted Mr. Biden to still be in the race, but their enthusiasm for Ms. Harris was low, too. The participants reviled Mr. Trump; this group wasn’t undecided in the sense that most would swing to him. The participants didn’t know a lot about her policies on the economy, Israel and Gaza, climate change, transgender kids, housing, and immigration. Listening to these voters, you get the sense that they felt she was not giving them enough reason to vote for her. The tight polls in the swing states make more sense after listening to these 15 voters. What’s something you’d ask Kamala Harris about? Participants. Transcripts: fill in the blank: The thing that worries me right now is blank. Inflation. Especially from a single-mom standpoint. At what point does it stop? The price of everything. Not being able to live a relaxing, calm, happy life if I reach 60-plus. I feel like I’ll run out of money. Gas prices in Arizona fluctuate. It was cheap yesterday. And groceries. I’ve got a 7-year-old boy. It’s hard nowadays, you know, to keep him well-fed. Same thing. Inflation. Health insurance. I have a chronic condition, and I’m worried about access to care. My job. I make more now than I ever did. I work from home, so I don’t have travel costs. And I have a future at the place that I work at. I recently moved to a new job where I like the work culture. Things are looking up for me. At the same time, I’m seeing a lot of layoffs in the software side among my friends, so that’s kind of concerning. The stock market is doing well, so I feel comfortable retirement-wise for investments I have. I would say my job and the Raleigh housing market. I feel a lot of job security, and my house’s value has gone up since we purchased three years ago, so we could see a nice little bump when we sell. We talked about what’s worrying you. What’s going well? Are America’s best days ahead of us, behind us, or happening now? Happening now. Behind us. Ahead of us. I believe they’re behind us. It’s stressful keeping a job at times. You never know what’s going to happen to you when you walk out your door. There’s a lot of corruption, a lot of police brutality and police killings. If you look at the ratios of yearly income to average housing cost, I don’t think affordability is going to come back. The school shootings, teen-on-teen violence, global warming. I think we’ve set off a runaway train that we won’t be able to pull back. Well, I like to stay optimistic. Some changes just need to be made with the economy. I’m excited about the potential for technology to improve our lives. How would you define the choice between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump? What is this election about to you? The Constitution — why it was written, why we have the Bill of Rights. When a person says that Article II says, “I can do anything I want,” that is a threat to our democracy. They can’t read the Bible in schools, but you can have transgenders come to the schools and read transgender books to our kids. Trump leans towards cutting things out, while Kamala doesn’t. However, there are aspects of Trump that I dislike, and there are reasons I would consider voting for Kamala. Personality is one thing, but what matters more to me is what you will actually do for our country.

Stephanie, a 50-year-old systems administrator from Arizona, finds Trump to be a disgusting human being, but she doesn’t see anything particularly great about Kamala.

Taurean, a 26-year-old security guard from Pennsylvania, sees the choice between an educated, sensible, moderate person and a strong, opinionated individual. For him, it comes down to their policies.

Brian, a 61-year-old carpenter from Pennsylvania, sees his vote as more of a vote against a particular person. He finds Trump too old and too demeaning towards people.

For Amy, a 50-year-old counselor from Pennsylvania, watching the debates has shown her that Trump lacks a plan and mainly resorts to insults when debating against Kamala.

Bill, a 69-year-old consultant from Michigan, believes that Trump’s perspective on mass deportations goes against the values on which the country was built.

Miranda, a 36-year-old paraprofessional from Wisconsin, acknowledges Trump’s economic impact but is concerned about his behavior and remains undecided.

Miranda, again, shares her concerns about Trump’s hate-filled behavior and lack of consideration towards others, especially given that she has biracial sons.

Lenita, a 43-year-old caregiver from North Carolina, criticizes Trump for continuing tax cuts that benefit the wealthy and finds him heartless in terms of issues like abortion rights.

Barbara, a 50-year-old teacher from Nevada, believes that Kamala will champion women’s rights and focus on uniting the country, contrasting her vision with speculative future projects like Project 2025.

Katelyn, a 29-year-old controller from Georgia, envisions a country where gender doesn’t limit bodily autonomy and where there are more opportunities for everyone.

Beren, a 40-year-old accountant from North Carolina, questions whether Kamala’s policies will effectively address the problems at hand, pointing out examples like the $25,000 benefit for first-time homebuyers and the proposal to not tax tips. I’m worried that Kamala is not leaning towards the more progressive side of the Democratic Party, which concerns me about the future direction. It seems like the farther left voices may have a bigger influence ultimately.

Moderator, Margie Omero

How would you describe Donald Trump in a word or two?

Barbara, 50, Nevada, white, indep., teacher

Unstable.

Aaron, 42, Wisconsin, white, indep., controller

Kind of a clown.

George, 35, Arizona, Latino, indep., caseworker

Patriotic.

Ken, 57, Michigan, white, indep., studio engineer

Idiot.

Taurean, 26, Pennsylvania, Black, Dem., security guard

Self-centered.

Bill, 69, Michigan, white, indep., consultant

Know-it-all.

Beren, 40, North Carolina, white, Repub., accountant

Self-centered but focused.

Amy, 50, Pennsylvania, white, indep., counselor

Egomaniac.

Brian, 61, Pennsylvania, white, Dem., carpenter

Condescending.

Lenita, 43, North Carolina, Black, indep., caregiver

Wealthy, jerk, narcissist.

Taurean, 26, Pennsylvania, Black, Dem., security guard

Money hungry.

Stephanie, 50, Arizona, white, Repub., systems administrator

Aspiring dictator.

Miranda, 36, Wisconsin, white, Dem., paraprofessional

Explosive.

Moderator, Margie Omero

Let’s say you saw Donald Trump at a cookout or a barbecue. What would he be like?

Taurean, 26, Pennsylvania, Black, Dem., security guard

He’d be very loud.

Lenita, 43, North Carolina, Black, indep., caregiver

He’d just be complaining about everything because it’s not up to his standards.

Ken, 57, Michigan, white, indep., studio engineer

It would be the greatest cookout ever in the history of the world. It would be 20,000 people at this cookout.

George, 35, Arizona, Latino, indep., caseworker

He’d give me a couple of minutes to talk about the economy or immigration before he went back to eating or talking to his staff.

Moderator, Margie Omero

If you had to describe Kamala Harris in a word or two, what word would you use?

George, 35, Arizona, Latino, indep., caseworker

Unpredictable.

Barbara, 50, Nevada, white, indep., teacher

Tough and intelligent.

Bill, 69, Michigan, white, indep., consultant

Curious.

Amy, 50, Pennsylvania, white, indep., counselor

Down-to-earth.

Brian, 61, Pennsylvania, white, Dem., carpenter

Friendly.

Taurean, 26, Pennsylvania, Black, Dem., security guard

Relatable, working-class woman.

Lenita, 43, North Carolina, Black, indep., caregiver

I believe she has a heart, so “heartfelt,” maybe.

Ken, 57, Michigan, white, indep., studio engineer

I wonder what she’s like when she’s mad. She’s a former prosecutor.

Aaron, 42, Wisconsin, white, indep., controller

Really determined.

Miranda, 36, Wisconsin, white, Dem., paraprofessional

Wishy-washy.

Honestly, I feel like I have an unpopular opinion. She’s been the vice president for four years, and we haven’t necessarily seen all the changes that were promised. Now she’s promising more. She comes across as a hard-working woman who is smart and who has seen the real world. She’s closer to my generation than Biden or Trump.

I don’t know enough about her to make that decision. Ken, 57, Michigan, white, indep., studio engineer.

I don’t feel like she’s had time to set herself apart from what Biden’s been doing for the last four years. For the most part, she’s run with a similar plan. I don’t know that that’s the best plan. Beren, 40, North Carolina, white, Repub., accountant.

I think I feel similarly. I don’t have a good idea of her policies on things so we know what the plan is for the economy. She gives the impression of a fresh perspective, but I don’t think we’ve had enough time to actually get details as to what that perspective is. Stephanie, 50, Arizona, white, Repub., systems administrator.

Same. I don’t know enough about her policies. Brian, 61, Pennsylvania, white, Dem., carpenter.

What’s her stance on guardrails for A.I. and other technology in the future? Katelyn, 29, Georgia, Latina, unspecified, controller.

What do you like least about her? Moderator, Margie Omero.

I’m curious what folks think Harris would be like as commander in chief. Moderator, Patrick Healy.

I think she has shown a lot of self-control and respect already, even just in the debate. I’m sure there were things that really got her mad during the debate, and she kept it calm and cool. I think it’s a sexist thing to say that women only react with emotion. That’s not true. We are logical. Barbara, 50, Nevada, white, indep., teacher.

It’s my and many people’s opinion, and it’s a lot of people’s opinion, that men base things off logic and females base things more off emotion. And I’m wondering what would happen if someone got her mad enough. Are we going to go to war because of her emotion or from her logic? Prince, 41, North Carolina, Black, Dem., food runner.

That’s why I’d ask it. Last October kind of opened the floodgates, and I think Israel is using that to take out a lot of pent-up frustration on the Middle East. At what point is Israel going too far? Ken, 57, Michigan, white, indep., studio engineer.

I want to know her stance on climate change. I’m assuming she would continue what they’ve been doing to protect and keep things in place; animals are a huge part of my vote. Barbara, 50, Nevada, white, indep., teacher.

And why is Trump still a viable candidate for you? Moderator, Patrick Healy.

I don’t know, to be honest. I’m not really sure if he is anymore. I just can’t decide. Barbara, 50, Nevada, white, indep., teacher. I wonder what our next steps should be. Ken mentioned Israel, and I’m interested in hearing opinions on how Harris stacks up against Trump on various global issues like Israel, Gaza, China, Putin, and Ukraine.

Ken thinks he can be bought.

It’s all about risk management. Trump’s approach to international relations could lead to catastrophic consequences, especially with his willingness to challenge Europe and NATO. We can’t afford to have innocent people suffer because of his decisions.

She seems to have a positive momentum with an inspiring message, unlike the former president who appeals to people’s worst instincts.

The upcoming vice-presidential debate between Tim Walz and JD Vance is crucial. What are your expectations, and how will it impact your vote?

I’m eager to hear the candidates’ policies and how they would govern if they were to take charge.

I’m more intrigued by the upcoming debate, especially since we haven’t heard much from Harris. I hope Walz can provide more insights into what Harris represents.

I’m curious to see if JD Vance will mimic Trump’s debate tactics of providing nonsensical answers.

Have you changed your views on anything in America after learning more about it?

Immigration is something that’s caught my attention. It seems like immigrants are getting financial support to start their lives here, which makes me wish the same opportunities were available to American citizens in need.

My perception of Kamala Harris has evolved from being neutral to having a favorable view.

Initially, I didn’t know much about Harris, but now I see her as a unifying figure.

I was initially unsure about Harris compared to Biden, but once Biden withdrew, I became more supportive of her. I believe we are in a better position now than if Biden had remained in the race. At this point, I’m not worried. Raise your hand if you wish that Biden had stayed in the race and was still the Democratic nominee against Trump. Is there any opinion you’ve held this year or in recent years that you decided you were wrong about? Trump really lost me when he talked about eating cats and giving abortions after the child’s been born already. I thought Roe v. Wade was a bad thing at one point in time, and I’m still very pro-life. But I just don’t think that the government really should be legislating one way or another. I think that choice is important, whereas in the past, I wasn’t so sure that the government shouldn’t make it for women. What do you want to see happen now with abortion rights? I think that there’s a middle ground. I mean, something after a number of weeks nationally, 20 weeks maybe, something that gives plenty of time but also not after viability. But I think what’s more important to me is that we build communities of support for people who choose to have kids and put people in a position to succeed and make sure that child tax credits and whatever support we can put in place to encourage people to build communities and build families — those things are important to me. I was initially of the impression that Kamala was not very approachable or had that connection with the people initially. Once she came out of the shadow of Biden, I see a different Kamala. Let’s say Trump wins in November. What do you think things in America will be like four years from January? There wouldn’t be too much more of the middle class. My job will probably be outsourced. Honestly, we might get some more stimulus checks, but we also might go to war. We’ve already seen four years of Trump. So I think he’s going to have a very big focus on getting the tax cuts he got pushed through last time pushed through. I do wonder what our standing on the world stage will look like, but I think probably the average American will be OK. I think immigration would be really restricted. That could mean well for our economy, for other sectors in America. The police kill three people a day in America, and he wants to expand qualified immunity to absolute immunity to the police. With his policies, we would be in a police state. I think the climate crisis will be horrific. I think a lot more places will be underwater, and I worry that women’s rights will be eviscerated. I think the country will be even more polarized than it is now. Let’s say Kamala Harris wins in November. What do you think things in America will be like four years from now? I don’t know that too much would change. A foreign conflict is something we wouldn’t willingly walk into, especially if Trump were president. Hopefully, there will be progress on women’s rights. It’s important that the government works together and passes bills. If Harris wins, it could mean taking the head off the snake. MAGA’s future without Trump is something I hope for. Who’s the snake, and what’s the head? I’m wondering who is truly undecided. I don’t think Trump could say anything to change my mind, but I would like more specific policies from Harris, like the $25,000 home-buyer tax credit. I want to know Harris’s economic and immigration plans. I need to hear more from Kamala Harris to consider voting for her, despite agreeing with some of Trump’s policies but disliking his character. I would like to inform you that the meeting has been rescheduled to next Wednesday due to a scheduling conflict. Thank you for your understanding. I would like to inform you that the meeting scheduled for tomorrow has been postponed until next week due to unforeseen circumstances. Thank you for your understanding. I would like to inform you that we have received your order and it is currently being processed. Thank you for choosing our services. Original text:
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